I Am The Great Leader: Obeyeth Me!

 One of the wonderful commenters here (and usually dissenting, which is partly what makes her so wonderful) mentioned that I seem to be reactionary.   How ever could she think that, I sarcastically laugh, as I read her words nodding and grinning.  I often wonder where I’ll be in five years—in my head, that is, not physically.  Physically, I vote for somewhere tropical. 

When I first began this personal blog as I exited conservativism (which I didn’t yet know I was doing), some leaders in my “Biblical Womanhood” world told me, in no uncertain terms, to shut it down, which is decidedly different from warmly dissenting, as Leigh Ann has always done an excellent job of doing.  (Examples of the lovely technique for squelching discussion can be found in the comments thread here, for example). 

Wondering about things aloud was decisively not allowed.  Neither was questioning established norms.  Neither was questioning what they said was God’s way, period.  I remember the pain those comments caused me—not the pain at their negative or concerned opinions for me, because I’m pretty thick skinned.  The reason it hurt so badly was because I still thought that way, still thought that there was probably only one right way of looking at everything (and that it was probably the way our little Christian subculture held) and that God would crush whoever deviated from it.  

I can hear someone crying, “She’s just denied absolute truth,” but be reassured: No, I didn’t.  I merely deny that one little Christian sub-culture has a handle on all absolute truth, that’s all. 

The reason I good-naturedly call my previous paradigm the “fundie hood” is because it cultivated a ghetto-like mentality: our way vs. everyone else.  Casual thoughts/statements like, “Oh, that person claims they are Christian, but I’m not sure if they’re a real one or not yet,” sort of give it away, you know?  Everything outside the ghetto was to be feared, whereas everything taught inside the ghetto was to be accepted without question or risk the label of heretic (or relativist, or feminist, or socialist, or…).  Lest you think I’m whining at being taught in ways that did not encourage discussion, let me remind you that in my most wincing memories, I was the teacher, teaching ”God’s Truth” in exactly that way.  The only questions I liked were the sort that you find in a workbook—-the ones looking for a very obvious answer, one that fit perfectly in our little paradigm.     

I met Jesus as a person who struck bottom, a young adult striving for success (in the alternative world of the early 90’s) on the outside, but on the inside was riddled by fear and eaten by insecurity and excelling in the fine art of hyper-self-focus.  I met Jesus and, long story short, the next thing I knew, I was walking on a narrow but well trod path, and I was smiling with this big goofy grin, knowing that no matter what happened, everything would always be okay from here on out.  My robes were washed clean, my heart was light.  He did that. 

And I left it, all in the name of pursuing Him wholly.  It looked good.  It looked great.  It felt good too, those first tantalizing years of finding my righteousness in Things, my identity in how I schooled my kids, in the way I dressed, in the doctrinal position we held on this or that, on the programs or events I was involved with. 

Somewhere, in the midst of it all, as my proud identity began to crumble in the face of my own imperfection, I discovered I wasn’t on that little path anymore, my robes were in tatters, and that it had been a long time since a big goofy grin raised my cheeks.  With my stomach in my throat, I opened my eyes for the first time in years and found that I was following law—–a thief masquerading only as shepherd (having had thousands of years to perfect the fine art of devouring and destroying). 

Escaping him was costly.  My health is still in tatters, and it has taken and is taking a long time to untangle the web.  For example, when those comments came telling me to shut down my blog (until I could become a godly Titus 2 older woman, ad nauseum), to stop wondering anything aloud and daring to question the sweeping authority of Ghetto Home Rules, I could hardly breath reading them because I was still so shaky, still wondering if I’d gotten it all wrong—if God was the destroyer (well, the false shepherd said he was God, and that rather authoritatively), still wondering if I was going to be struck dead for wondering what was outside the ghetto walls.

I guess I write this tonight to say that I believe questioning a (and any) Christian ghetto is perfectly acceptable.  But I also write to say that I’m very much in process, and I think Leigh Ann brings up a valid warning here.  Though I’m sure she didn’t mean it as an actual warning, I wanted to mention it in the name of full disclosure—maybe you should be warned. 

This blog doesn’t exist to show everybody the “right way” to do things or to think about things.  Of course I enjoy readers, in the same way that I enjoy large groups of people in real life, but I don’t think of myself as a teacher when I sit down at the computer and type out a ramble.  When I write, I actually picture myself chattering away in a circle of friends at a loud and happy party—knowing that when I wake up in the morning and check the internet, some of you will have flapped your jaws back at me—all of us together thinking, searching, enjoying the fellowship and the wondering on the greatness and the bigness of Yahweh.   If you’re looking for The Super Christian behind a pulpit, go somewhere else.          

25 Responses to this post.

  1. You describe your journey with incredible clarity. I guess one challenge we all face as Christians is holding onto our convictions while expressing them with compassion.

    My story is not yours, but I’ve been twice shunned. First, by a fundamentalist community when my parents divorced and next, by a liberal one when I became more conservative.

    The fundamentalists found me to be unholy and unrighteous. The liberals found me to be uneducated and unsophistocated.

    My hope as a pastor and blogger is to foster a community where the sort of passionate relationship you described having with Jesus is nurtured and carried over into our relationships with others.

    I really enjoy your posts. Keep it up.

  2. Posted by sue on January 3, 2008 at 5:27 am

    I didn’t realize you were a pastor’s wife. You were kept in the smallest box of all!! We expect things of pastor’s wives that are not humanly possible. To be little Stepford wives with perfect little Stepford children, play piano and be in charge of the women’s and children’s programs…..I’d be in a padded room after a few months of that life!!! Love your ramblings!!!

  3. Molly, I hate to agree with you so much, but I really appreciate this post. Excellent. I always thought blogging was all about thinking out loud anyway. I don’t mean for the words to be mistaken for my proclamation of truth… i’m looking for people to help me along the way, but i’m not sure everyone agrees that that is the role of a good blog.

  4. You know, I still consider myself a conservative fundamentalist, but you and I seem to think a lot alike. I know about the people you’re talking about, though, the ones who are quick to rebuke anything they think is ‘not Christian’ – I just left an online group over that as well. I can extend understanding to them, though. I honestly think that the majority of them are just as confused as I am, but ‘the hood’ is all they’ve known.

    You and I were both privileged to not grow up in the perfect little church going Ezzo-following family. We know there are many many ways to do things, and not every way is going to be right for every one. But, for example, a friend of mine was raised in a wife-submitting, homeschooling, homebirthing, corporal punishing, QF family. Their friends had the same values as them, and that’s literally all she’s ever known. And it worked for them. We just spent the last weekend with two of the families, there is so much love in their home, it really truly did work for their families.

    I can see why she (and even Debi Pearl) could say that for sure *that* way is the right way. Debi has never met me, she’s never met you, never met our children or husbands. I think these people need to be lovingly talked to as well.

    When my friend says something about submitting to my husband, I smile and answer as best as I can without spilling gory details. But she sees that *my home* has love too, and I love Jesus, and I’m not a classic submitting wife. And it’s okay with her because I don’t bristle when she mentions what’s normal in her family. But, if I were to inform her that she’s closed minded and naive (which I tend to think at times, even if she is my best friend lol) then I think we would both be missing out.

    I guess I see a little bit of ‘conservative bashing’ going on here, and maybe it rubs me the wrong way… :)

    Cara

  5. I’m with Cara’s last statement. It’s one thing to believe with all of your heart that you’ve found freedom in Christ and not been a slave to rules anymore. I can even understand the need to try to label where you were, and the colorful terms are certainly how you see it in your head.

    However, when I look at Paul and Jesus’ reactions to those that were trying to follow God but were not doing it “the right way”, I see compassion and love. Paul said that although a group was attacking him, they were proclaiming the Gospel, and he was happy for that. When the disciples told Jesus that there were others casting out demons in His name that were not the twelve, He told them that they were not the only ones.

    All I guess I’m trying to say is that, in your attempt to be different from that which you’ve been you are voicing the very same things. Only you’ve switched who “us” is. Now, it’s not those that are “outside the [conservative/fundamental] ghetto” that are to be feared, but those inside. Now it’s not questioning the salvation of those that differ with these people, but questioning their salvation because they try to follow the law.

    Romans 14 is very instructive on this topic– those that believe that they need to not eat meat, to hold days special, etc. are no less Christian than those that know that we no longer have to follow these rules. For those that follow the law and give God thanks, God says that they are blessed, and that they should not judge the believers that feel that they do not have to do it (in non-sin areas). BUT the same is true for those that feel they are free from certain things. They are to give God thanks for their freedom, but they are not to judge the brother that keeps them.

    Be careful that you do not judge a brother– regardless of where you stand now.

  6. Wow. Just. Wow. Very well written. I’m a youth pastor and I know my wife feels many of the same things you do. I’m going to send her a link to this post. Very encouraging.

  7. Molly, I really and truly appreciate this. In the short time that I have been reading your blog I have always felt that you are loving and caring in your approach to people and to discussion.
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    Personally, I do not feel that you have been at all inflammatory or conservative bashing. I think you are looking at your own life through a new lens and you are seeing how much it harmed your whole existence, and I believe that is not only good, but healthy and wise.
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    I feel much the same way you do, having been practically banished by my home church because I am in seminary on the road to becoming a pastor. Following God’s call on my life means directly contradicting those people…and I just don’t know how to do that without disagreeing with them outright. Sometimes I just need to tell the truth of my life, and I feel as though that is what you are doing, and people need to hear it.

  8. Take me to your leader. I think you can’t help being a leader/teacher. It’s in your make up (though I know we would disagree about what to do with that LOL).
    I’m glad my comments were received as intended (you are right, it wasn’t a warning). In many ways we are in the same place. We left fundamentalism as described by “I don’t smoke, I don’t chew, I don’t run with girls that do.” That was hard because I knew that others were looking at our “lack of standards” and thinking we were on a slippery slope even though most have been very gracious (holding fast to what they believe yet trying to understand us). And it is difficult to divorce yourself from finding your identity in certain things realizing that your righteousness doesn’t come in the box with the denim jumper. I wonder what will happen if we go back to the Anglican church? It’s especially hard when it’s your family who are worried about you. But in a way I appreciate the concern because it makes me continually reevaluate my faith and practice. And like Cassandra, reading the other point of view helps me do the same thing.
    So who knows where we will all be in 5 years. Tropical sounds good to me too.

  9. Oh, and by that above comment, I most certainly was not ‘Molly bashing’ :) I love Molly and I think she knows that!

  10. Great comments following on to this already great post. I think our inability to see clearly now is part of the reason God says “don’t judge.” He is the only True and Righteous Judge and we simply don’t have the faculty to judge rightly. Good stuff everyone.

  11. Oh Molly, I’m going to tell you again: THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU! You are honest. You feel things. The problem with “fundie hood” is that you get to the point where you feel nothing in an effort to not question things. Or at least that is how I ended up. I was secretly questioning things inside my heart, my mind and my soul. And I even felt guilty about that so I tried not to feel ANYTHING. And guess what? The love and good things inside me evaporated too.
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    And for the record, I use a similar terminology. Instead of fundie hood I use the term “fundie frootloops”. Yeah, it is a tad bit judgemental, but it is completely how I feel about my brief stay in that camp.

  12. P.S. I know many who feel as you do, Molly and Lindsey, when they were in the fundamentalist camp. But then on the other hand there are those still there who are overflowing with “the love and good things. For me the amount of love and good things always depends on how close I am walking in the Son and not what camp I am in. That is not to say that there are not problems in any camp. Unfortunately there will always be because we are seeing through a glass darkly, knowing in part. Just think about what a time we will have when we all be face to face, knowing as we are known

  13. There are times when a post resonates with where I am at and where I have come from. This is another one of those.

    This quote was brilliant: I opened my eyes for the first time in years and found that I was following law—–a thief masquerading only as shepherd (having had thousands of years to perfect the fine art of devouring and destroying).

  14. I like reading your blog for the sole purpose of studying the Scripture even further, and really digging into why I believe what I believe. Even though it does make me wince a little when I read comments referring to me as a ‘fundie fruitloop’! lol- I think I can handle it, though. Just as we fundamentalists can be judgmental, it’s the same for the opposite side, too. I think the human race is judgmental as a whole- it’s in our nature. It’s just finding the right balance…ie, being steadfast in our convictions, really believing what we believe, and sticking to it- without looking down on, or thinking we are better than the ‘other side’. ‘Cause what it all comes down to is the saving power of God. We are all sinners. So I wear skirts all the time and you don’t. So we feel differently about the whole authority thing. Ultimately, the main thing is is that we realized our need for the Saviour. Do I agree with all of your doctrine and theology? Absolutely not. But I do think that you hunger after God. And that’s why I keep on coming back and reading your very intense, passionate posts. Because I see a little of me in you, even though we are so totally different.

  15. Molly, you’ve summarized the issue aptly: Everything outside the ghetto was to be feared, whereas everything taught inside the ghetto was to be accepted without question or risk the label of heretic

    It’s this fear that’s at the root of it. We fear evil, so we become hateful ourselves in an effort to avoid it. But we can’t, because it’s inside us. And so, when challenged, we become defensive, putting our trust in ourselves and our “rightness” rather than in Christ and His forgiveness.

    I’m ashamed at my own tendency to be judgmental, even though I know, and purpose, better. But, like Paul, there are two “men” at war within me. Praise God that my salvation does not rest in me, but in Christ!

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  17. All I can say is this journey is your own Molly!!! I LOVE your posts and I’m so thankful you’re back to blogging again.

  18. Hey Cassandra, you can be a fundie without being a fundie frootloop so don’t let my term bother you too much. I have lots of very nice & normal fundie friends.

    And then, I know lots of fundie frootloops too. Some of them were once my best friends, back in the day.

    There are alot of postmodern frootloops too, I am guessing.

    Heck, we’re all just a bunch of nuts, anyway? :)

    Please nobody get too upset about my frootloop comment. (and if you do get really, really upset about it, it might be a clue that you are, yourself, a frootloop of some kind)

  19. [This comment has been removed becasue I followed Tiffany's advice below. What would I do without these wise wise comments]????
    :)

  20. This was a very good post Molly.

    But it is your comment in response to everyone that I think is fantastic at really conveying so much of what I have been wondering about your thought process and yet haven’t been sure exactly how to ask. I vote for bumping it up to the status of a post. :)

    Gotta run. I’ll be back. :) :)

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  22. Posted by sue on January 3, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    I look around the Catholic church and see a lot of denim jumpers. I wear mine with a white Tshirt for weddings, black Tshirt for funerals, green or purple Tshirts depending on where we are in the litugical season.;-) My work clothes are jeans with different Tshirts so my jumper is my sad attempt at fashion since I’m not wearing sneakers. I used to be a fundie sort of a fruitloop. I recently attended an ‘old school’ Mass that was 97% Latin, priest faced the altar and I had to wear a black lace head covering. My inner nerd rejoiced!! I wish I didn’t want to dig deep and learn EVERYTHING and I could be ‘like everyone else’ and be content where I am in my faith journey. I love reading everyone’s input, I’m feel like I’m not crazy to keep doing all I can to be closer to Christ.

  23. Dang. I thought you were The Super Christian. You mean you’re just human like the rest of us? Sheesh.

    ;)

    ~Leah

  24. Posted by Atlantic on January 4, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Hey Sue, mantillas rock! And don’t forget the red t-shirt for Pentecost and martyr’s feasts. :)

  25. Posted by sue on January 5, 2008 at 5:40 am

    Thanks! I should also buy a pink Tshirt for Gaudette Sunday since I don’t own anything pink. I should have posted ‘my jumper’comment in the Fundie Hood thread. Sorry I got off track in this one!

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