Let me present an element of fundamentalism that I find dangerous (at best).
There are only two choices: You can either be a submissive wife and have a happy marriage, or you can be a conniving rebellious domineering woman and make your marriage miserable.
There are only two choices: You can either spank your children, rewarding every infraction with swift clear punishment, which we say will produce “godly seed,” or you can not spank and have sniveling brats who run into streets and throw tantrums every five seconds and will grow up to bomb schools and have fifteen illegitimate children before they run straight to the fires of hell.
There are only two choices: You can believe my denomination/group’s theological view (plainly taught by the Bible) and thus be a real Christian and please the Lord, or you can not subscribe to our particular theological view (er, do you even read the Bible?) and be a second-class Christian (if you’re saved at all, that is), and be outside the pale of God’s approval.
Note the similarity in all the above scenarios. There are only two choices: A or B. If you pick A, you will be happy and in God’s will. If you pick B, you will be/remain in misery and out of God’s will.
This is the fallacy of the “world is black and white” mentality. It does nobody any favors. It makes us look stupid to the watching world, and it does little to promote our own personal growth, to boot. Maybe I especially hate the A/B lie because I fell for it so many times. I was ripe for it, coming out of a Christian-cultish experience and looking for a little stability, something to ensure that the previous experience would never happen again. I found my home in conservative Christianity, where I promptly set up camp and started handing out tracts. When the books presented A/B arguments, I sure knew I didn’t want B, so I thankfully threw myself into A, joyful that God saved me from the horrors of the B alternative.
To me, the A/B myth is the summing up of what modernity did to Christianity, particularly (though certainly not limited to) the subgroup I came from, which is fundamentalism. They never told us there was a C. Or a D. Or an E…
Newsflash. Yes, you can be a submissive wife and let your husband lead you. You can also be a domineering witch—you have that right, as well. But there’s also C: you can be a Jesus-follower who is commited to treating others with love and honor, seeking to have the fruit of the Spirit charactarize your relationship with your spouse.
You can be a parent who is swift with the rod and rewards all transgressions with punishment. You can be a parent who lets your kids run all over you. You can also be a parent who rarely spanks (if ever) but who gently-but-firmly enforces boundaries and seeks to grow up happy and healthy God-lovers through the dirt and sun and rain of Love’s Law.
You can be a firm believer that your theological view is Right. You can be a theological mess who never cracks a Bible, much less cares. You can also be a Berean, loving to study the Scriptures yet knowing that we will never be able to mathematically diagram the mystery of God, no matter how hard we try—but we can Love Him and humbly love eachother, because brotherhood and sisterhood doesn’t disintigrate when we disagree over doctrinal distinctions.
Before you post an outraged comment, let me present that I’m not talking about the fact that there is “a path that is wide, leading to destruction, and a path that is narrow, leading to Life.” There is a right hand and a left, there is a up and a down, and there is a North Pole and a South. Though there is much in postmoderndom that moderns could stand to embrace, the “no absolutes” part is strikingly opposite to the name of God Himself (I Am). He is, and there is no other, and that is absolute.
When my eyes roll, it’s when the little absolutes, the “lesser-than” opinions, are made into Thou Shalt Not Question This, For It Is An Absolute, Thus Sayeth the Lord. That kind of thinking shuts off the brain, shuts down the mind, promotes death much more than it promotes life. The truth is supposed to set us free, not box us in.


















Posted by sunniemom on January 7, 2008 at 11:08 am
And what the A/B argument ignores is that Christianity is a process of growth. It is compared again and again with a baby who starts off with milk until he matures enough to be ready for meat. Well, where’s the green beans and mashed taters? Somewheres in the middle, I reckon.
And as long as there is gravy, I’m happy.:D
I should not post when I am hungry.
Posted by Andi on January 7, 2008 at 11:13 am
Do you know, I think it was that very black and white, either or mentality that first raised a little red flag in my mind when I learned about fundamentalism myself. Of course, you articulate it better than I could have!
Now, I’m very sorry that this is off topic but I wanted to e-mail you with a question I had, and can’t seem to find your address on your blog! This of course may be entirely deliberate on your part, or blindness on mine– both are equally possible
Could you possibly drop me a line to let me know how I can reach you privately? Thanks so much!
Posted by Lindsey @ enjoythejourney on January 7, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Yep.
That was my experience. Maybe it is why I am so jaded. I know not all fundamentalists are like that, but my experience was more like what you described than not.
And while I am a homeschool advocate, I get tired of the “homeschool is the only Biblical option” thrust down the throats of many in the fundie camp.
Posted by Carla on January 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I don’t know….
While I agree with you that the false A/B choice is dangerous I don’t know that it is unique to “fundamentalism”. I still doctrinally line up with a lot of fundamentalism (though surprisingly on your quiz Wesleyan was my first–and my dh’s, and we haven’t investigated Methodism in ages) but I’m not at all a black and white person on the issues that you mentioned.
I tend to think this is a spiritual journey/life journey/ age type of thing rather than a “type of Christianity” type thing. I was more black and white when I was a younger Christian and I was more black and white when I was a young mom/young wife. Of course I would have been really mad if you told me that then. The years have mellowed me.
Posted by Atlantic on January 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Actually, what jumps out at me about the first two examples is that they are promising, “If you do the right thing, God will reward you in this world”.
Posted by Mrs. Taft on January 7, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I agree with you
I do have to ask, how does this line up with your thoughts on Orthodoxy? Orthodoxy teaches that they are the only TRUE Christian church, and is apparently something you must embrace as truth if you wish to convert. As I understand it, it’s not that most of them think no other Christians are saved or are in complete error, just that they are not in FULL truth and that there is no truer church than the Orthodox church.
Posted by Leigh Ann on January 7, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Me too, Atlantic.
Posted by teachergirl on January 7, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Great post, Molly! I totally agree with you about the error of making everything an either/or with nothing in between. I think for me, leaving behind the black and white mentality was one of the hardest things about leaving hyper-patriarchy and ultra-conservative Christianity. I thought I had everything figured out and placed in one of the appropriate columns. Learning to see the gray areas was hard because it meant I had to actually think for myself, instead of blindly accepting what others taught. I kind of didn’t know what to do with myself for a while.
Posted by molleth on January 7, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I love the comments…good thoughts…
Albeit, as the post said, I’m not opposed to A/B, such as the fact that God is God, and I’m not. That’s an A/B.
If at some point I were to feel that the Orthodox Church was the true expression, of course I’d join. As it stands, I’m currently a very shallow dabbler.
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Mrs. Taft, many of the Orthodox theological positions respect the mystery, which I love. For example, to the Orthodox, salvation is not considered to be a one time legal contract, but an entrance into a Family—-a beginning of Journey. I love that…it so much fits into the Scripture, I think—certainly one is born again into the family, but that is not considered an end unto itself, just as we would not feel satisfied giving birth to a baby that then perpetually remained a one day old infant. I love the room in Orthodoxy to say, “This is what we think the Cross means, but let’s face it, we’re probably only seeing the half of it (if even that): God is big, God is huge, this is all a beautiful mystery.” That stands diametrically opposed to the neat orderly doctrinal world I grew up in.
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But on actually *joining* the Orthodox Church, yes, that would mean I would need to believe that they were the true expression of the Church on the earth. Certainly an A/B.
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What drew me to investigate the Orthodox Church was the theology, which was decidedly *not* of the mathematical A/B formulaic sort I’ve been discipled in. I find that to be one of the most compelling attractions of the EO…the orderliness and yet the grand messiness…the structured chaos…(probably because it reminds me of my own house–harharhar!)…
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That said, I have big questions…one of them being, “Is there even such a thing as a visible ‘true church’ in the first place?” That’s sort of a major stumbling block to becomign Orthodox (or anything else for that matter). *laughing groan*
Posted by molleth on January 7, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Andi,


judahATacsalaskaDOTnet is my email address.
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Sunniemom,
Yes. As I said in the comment above this one, I love the emphasis on the JOURNEY of salvation. I think it’s very healthy.
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Lindsey,
I’m jaded and angry and bitter too. Hopefully growing less and less by the day!!! LOL… I can’t believe what a difference each month has made. I think a process of being angry is a NORMAL part of any grieving/healing process. It’s the *staying that way* that I don’t want to experience.
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Carla,
I agree that it’s not unique to fundamentalism. But I know many “older folks” who are very much A/B thinkers, so while I agree that age SHOULD mature us into less black-and-white thinking, sometimes it seems that age *cements* black and white thinking. If in doubt, read a John MacArthur book… *evil snicker*
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Atlantic,
That’s very insightful!
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Teachergirl,
I completely relate to what you said, and YES, leaving the orderliness of my little columns was very difficult…I think I sort of stood staring off into space and picking my nose for a while there…
Posted by Mak on January 7, 2008 at 5:01 pm
not just fundamentalism, most conservative evangelicalism including fundamentalism. In fact, not just that, modernity in general – it’s a product of the enlightenment
Posted by Makeesha Fisher on January 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I wish I could sign in here with my swinging account. But since it’s self hosted I can’t seem to pull that off unless I remember to log out.
Posted by traveller on January 7, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Good thoughts.
Posted by Kievas Fargo on January 7, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Great post…the world is indeed painted in shades of gray. But, as you mentioned, there are some absolutes as well. The problem arises when a denomination (or church) chooses its own absolutes, and finds that others have a different set. And, most often, they are based on a literal reading of scripture.
Posted by April on January 7, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Kievas… I think most often they are based on a selective reading of scripture.
And I would echo the statement that it is not just fundamentalists, or conservatives, or evangelicals. In the mainline world, black-white/a-or-b thinking is rampant, too. And among many of my emergent friends, it’s prevalent also. It’s just about different issues more convenient to making our particular points.
Posted by Maureen E on January 7, 2008 at 8:58 pm
to the Orthodox, salvation is not considered to be a one time legal contract, but an entrance into a Family—-a beginning of Journey.
YES. Oh Molly, you expressed that so well!
Posted by Cassandra on January 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Wow, do some fundamentalits really think that extreme, or are you exaggerating, my dear Molly? =) Because I tend to think in black and white, but it’s more along the lines of this… The Bible says that adultery is sin, and not to do it. Therefore, adultery is sin. Don’t do it. The Bible says not to steal, it’s wrong. Therefore, don’t steal. My husband and I try to live our lives by what God says in his Holy Word. If the Bible says to do something, we try, to the best of our ability, to do it. If it says, “Don’t do it,” then we try not to do it. God had pretty much outlined the path to wisdom, and the path to failure in his Word. If that thinking is Black/White, then I guess I think that way.
Posted by Stephanie on January 8, 2008 at 4:45 am
Whenever I hear about “either/or” situations, I think about a time I heard Ravi Zacharias speak at my alma mater (an EXTREMELY secular institution). He described the “either/or” (black/white) as a Western way of thinking. Being Indian, he was brought up with more of the Eastern way of thinking, which was much more “both/and.” I think part of his point was that neither perspective is absolutely correct, but the world is full of both. I may be forgetting much of the gist (it was some 10 years ago), but I wonder if, though we think that “all” fundamentalists or evangelicals or conservatives or what seems to be “mainline” Christianity in the US today are so “either/or”- we might do well to remember we do live in a world where we see through the lenses of our culture. For those of us in US Christianity, what is typical, and what has been typical for decades, is the “either/or” mindset. And as has been states, sometimes that is an accurate statement of a particular argument (God is God, we are not). And sometimes, there is more freedom than that. Any questions or debates should cause us to press into the Father, remembering that the Spirit is going to guide us as we read His Word. As others have said, our faith is a journey, even as adults we are still learning so much. God is gracious to allow us to make mistakes as we learn. We should extend others the same grace.
Posted by Stephanie on January 8, 2008 at 4:47 am
By the way, I grew up Southern Baptist (in more northern/ midwest states) and always thought that meant I was a fundamentalist. But when you all talk about fundamentalism (I’d never heard of any Pearls until reading here)- yikes. I would hesitate to label myself that way now!
Posted by Nathan Bubna on January 8, 2008 at 9:05 am
Just for fun…
So, you either A) believe there are more than A and B options on many complicated issues in our multi-faceted, many dimensioned lives and thus are a happy Jesus-follower who plays well with other kids or else B) believe issues are almost always black & white, with one God-approved option and another second rate or worse option, thus leading yourself to a life of fundamentalist condemnation, arrogance and conflict with everyone else.
Did i get those two options right? Or did i miss some? (picture me wearing an impish grin at this point)
Posted by molleth on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 am
HArharhar! *whops Nathan with snowball*
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Stephanie,
I think that sometimes having an either/or perspective is right on, and sometimes it blinds us.
Cassandra brings up perfect examples of either/or viewpoints that are rather either/or! lol… Adultery is, generally speaking, either/or, you know?
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I gotta run, but what spawned this post was recieving a rather large email digest that I thought I unsubscribed from years ago. Apparently, my spam catcher had been nabbing it and then, one day, decided it wasn’t spam anymore. So I read through some issues and was wincing all over the place…everything was so either/or…all these “minors” being treated as majors (women wearing skirts or pants, girls being -gasp- allowed to play sports, blah blah blah). I felt like crying for them. The world was so tight and constricted for these folks, a black and white issue every which way they looked.
More later—-right now, a two year old needs me, like, NOW!
Posted by Bryan Riley on January 8, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Fantastic post exposing false dichotomies. Great stuff. Keep it up, chickadee.
Posted by Light M. on January 8, 2008 at 4:36 pm
There was one on the True Womanhood blog recently. I forget the players, but someone is claiming that either A) daughters stay home as helpmeets to their father until they get married or B) go to college, become harlots, and have abortions. Ya. Right.
Posted by jacob on January 8, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Why can’t they stay home and become harlots and have abortions?
Posted by molleth on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Jacob, jacob, jacob… *smirks and rolls eyes*
Don’t you know that home-keepers are righteous BECAUSE of their home-keeping??????
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If my life wasn’t so nuts, I’d respond to the rest of the comments…thanks, all ya’ll!
Posted by Maureen E on January 8, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Hmmm…according to that reasoning I should have 1.5 abortions already. Whoops. Better get on that. I mean, I wouldn’t want to prove anyone wrong, would I?
Posted by Maureen E on January 8, 2008 at 11:16 pm
That comment was entirely sarcastic, by the way. Just so no one misunderstands.
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