Root Issues: Authority Structures We Like Best (Fluid vs. Heirarchal, etc) and Their Influence in the Way We Interpret Scripture (Gender Issues, Church Government, Relationships…)

Resonate writer, Len Hjalmarson, recently mused on a topic of interest to me.  His post, Evolution of Heirarchy, discusses how factors like access to technology and information are forcing us to change the way we think of authority structures. No longer do we live in a world where only “the leader” knows what to do—-now many people have access to facts that help one decide what decisions should be made and how.

The human world was once a fairly unconnected place and the way “things were run” reflected that. For example, the Old Testament nation of Israel longed for a king, as opposed to the more recent instance in the United States, where “getting a king” was purposely and passionately avoided. The more fluid our communities become, the more we find heirarchal authority structures struggling to fit. Hjalmarson writes,

There is paradigmatic shift occurring. Hierarchy limits options because it
limits connectivity, and we live in an connected world. Information that has to
flow from the top down through rigidly defined chains has limited effect.
Information that is randomly distributed and readily available creates
collaboration. These more open structures are by nature empowering and generate
change that works from the bottom up as well as from the top down. And change
and transformation and inclusion are implicit in body life.

Boundaries in traditional settings are used to determine who is in and who
is out. In new communities boundaries are not protective walls but are porous
and become meeting places. In living systems boundaries are where information is
exchanged and new relationships take form. Boundaries .. edges.. are the places
of emergence and the frontier for engagement.

The article compares the New Testament picture of Body life, as expressed in passages like Ephesians 4, with the way the world is transitioning away from heirarchal structures and into more fluid networked bodies.

The networked church has more in common with the life we see in the book of
Acts than does the hierarchical church.

William Bridges writes,“Networked technology takes power from the head of
an organization and distributes it to the hands.”This practice can be tainted
with paternalism. Empowering does not mean giving power to people who had none,
but rather recognizing and freeing the power that is there. When we are “in
Christ” we are already empowered, but frequently our structures have impeded
rather than invited the participation of the gifted community and have thus
constrained the Holy Spirit and limited growth.

How does the above fit within the distinctly different egalitarian and complementarian frameworks, if at all, not to mention the many other “positions” that find themselves on one side or the other of this discussion? Is the movement away from heirarchy the result of human rebellion or is it a move into a more sane and beneficial way of organizing social groups? Is a complementarian (women submit to male leadership, as God has designed, see here for more) able to agree with the above perspectives and still be a staunch complementarian, and/or is an egalitarian (men and women are equally empowered by the Spirit to both lead and follow, regardless of gender, see here for more) unable to approve of heirarchal organizational structures at all?

And how much of our underlying assumption of what “good authority” looks like (be it heirarchal, fluid, or otherwise) color our interpretation of what Paul is talking about in Ephesians 5 and other similar passages about gender and/or about church government and/or about the way Christians should relate to eachother?  How does this relate to other issues, like the Orthodox and Catholic Churches vs. the Emerging Movement?  This, certainly, is one of the underlying root issues for a wide variety of opposing views, and one I think I will be exploring for some time.

17 Responses to this post.

  1. Posted by traveller on April 3, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Clearly, the world at large is experiencing this decentralization and move to networks largely as a result of technology and globalization in their broadest senses. This is impacting all institutions and hierarchies, even hierarchical church structures. Even in the Roman Catholic church and the Anglican community there is this shift. For example, as the Anglican community divides, congregations and parishes in the US are aligning themselves with those in Africa who are more alike theologically than those in close geographic proximity. This is causing great turmoil within the Anglican community because it subverts the hierarchy structure that has been in place for 500 years.

    I think this does have an impact on complementarian/egualitarian thinking. As decentralization occurs and the church becomes more organic the hierarchy loses control. For example, I am a part of a gathering of followers of Jesus who are very organic. There are no formal roles or positions of authority. So, the very idea of limiting women’s roles is irrelevant. A woman can exercise her gift in the same way a man may do so without regard to gender because we have no positions to exclude a woman from in our loosely structured group.

    Of course, it is likely that those who hold to very conservative/fundamentalist thinking will even more vociferously attempt to enforce their ideas within their institutions. This is occurring now among Southern Baptists. But it seems pretty clear from 20 years of research by George Barna that these folks will be an ever smaller proportion of Christianity. They may never cease to exist but are likely to be as anachronistic as the Amish are today. And, with regard to the marital relationship this may be important as well since the very idea of mutual submission, instead of only one person submitting to an authority figure, fits neatly with this thinking. Leaderless organizations by definition need people who are willing to submit to one another in order to be effective, otherwise it is chaos.

    There are some interesting secular and business books on this: “The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations” by Ori Brafman and Rod Beckstrom, “Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing without Organizations” by Clay Shirky and “A Perfect Mess: The Hidden Benefits of Disorder” by Eric Abrahamson and David H. Freedman are just a sampling.

    This is far more important than most followers of Jesus recognize. It could be so profound that the institutional expression of church disappears in the next 50 years, or less.

  2. Good book titles—thanks!
    I enjoyed your comments, thanks.

  3. Hmm. The thought of having a church without a pastor, pastor’s wife, assist. pastor, etc. is interesting and one I’ve never thought before. Good post-made me think.

  4. The networked church has more in common with the life we see in the book of
    Acts than does the hierarchical church.

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    How does one see the book of Acts as depicting a networked non-hierarchical church? I think that may be a case of reading one’s own beliefs/views into the book even more than those who see Acts supporting the monarchical episcopate (single bishop) model we find in Ignatius in 110 A.D. and which became pretty much the model everywhere by the end of the 2nd century.
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    FYI – a good short readable book on early church history is Henry Chadwick, THE EARLY CHURCH (Revised Edition). Interesting and at times discomforting reading, IMO, for Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox. To the list of things into which one should not inquire – i.e., the making of laws and sausages – one perhaps should add church history. :)

  5. Posted by traveller on April 4, 2008 at 7:07 am

    Jacob,

    Most things are far more complex than we like to view them simply because life is complex. However, I think one can turn your statement around and say maybe we have read too much hierarchy and structure into scripture because it is what we have known for 1700 years.

    For example, in Acts where deacons are appointed to care for the Hellenist widows. The assumption is that this was at a minimum a good thing if not a requirement for the future. However, I would suggest that the reason the deacons were appointed was because the followers of Jesus within the ekklesia in Jerusalem were not properly exercising their gifts. So, the apostles, who wished to exercise the gifts given to them, took a human action, not a divine one, to appoint these deacons to make up for the failure of the body of Christ at large. If each of us were to exercise the gifts given to us by the Spirit we would not need any positions or offices since through the power of the Spirit each would do its part as the body.

    Even though institutionalization of the ekklesia did not reach full flower until the fourth century it certainly was creeping into the church earlier. However, I do not believe this is what Father intended, just a human reaction to Christians failing to be what they were gifted to be by the Spirit.

  6. I have ambivalent/mixed views on this, traveller, perhaps reflecting the mixed view the NT seems to give. E.g.:
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    Jesus appointed a group and gave them extra authority [ability to bind and loose (in Jewish understanding, that meant making rules/decisions for the ekklêsia); ability/authority to forgive or retain sins; etc.]
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    He appointed apostles, whom Paul refers to as being “first” (which seems to be not just priority in time, but also priority in authority), and to whom He promised positions of sitting on thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel
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    The NT recognizes leaders in charge of the flocks, to whom were due obedience; they were made leaders by the Holy Spirit (i.e., the Holy Spirit consecrated and endorsed a hierarchy)
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    Paul seems to be giving instructions to Titus as if Titus were a bishop or overseeing elder when he told him to install elders as leaders
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    Jesus promises to give Peter, and Peter only, “the keys to the kingdom,” which if the reference is to Isaiah 22, means he is to exercise stewardship authority (not simply co-equality with all Christians) in Jesus’ kingdom.
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    I.e., there are a number of things in the NT that suggest that the idea of the church being an institution with a hierarchy originated with and was taught by Jesus and the Apostles.

  7. Posted by traveller on April 4, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Thank you for the good dialogue, Jacob. Your views on these scriptures is the same as are held by many but they are not the only reasonable interpretations. As an example, the reference to binding and loosing, in my understanding, had to do with rabbi’s ability to interpret scripture for his students, not make rules/decisions for the ekklesia. The fact Jesus said it only to the apostles at that time does not mean it was limited to the twelve. Indeed, the overall NT context would indicate otherwise.

    Further, in my understanding the ekklesia should reflect the same type of relation as the Trinity. I know that some would say there are different authorities within the Trinity but I think the better understanding would be that they are co-equal and always act in unity and love.

    Further, it seems highly improbalbe to me that the God described in the Bible would create an institution since they entire purpose for creating humans was to be in perfect loving relationship with God and each other. This is hardly the ingredients of an institution.

    I realize that it is not likely I will persuade you in this so thanks again for the opportunity to share thoughts. One of the beauties of the love relationship among followers of Jesus is that unity in relationship does not require conformity of opinion.

    And, Molly, thanks for the forum to have this conversation.

  8. traveller:

    Just because I at present belong to a hierarchical communion does not mean that I can’t be persuaded otherwise. I enjoy the dialogue, too.
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    I would say that some of your statements about the nature of the Trinity and the purpose of creation are suppositions, and not unarguable teachings from Scripture. It is, after all, called Kingdom of God, not the Community of God. :)

  9. Posted by traveller on April 4, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Jacob, I hope that whatever I state would have some tie back to scripture. So, while I do not believe they are the result of suppositions, I do acknowledge that some scripture is subject to more than one reasonable interpretation. During my life I have accepted more than one interpretation of some of these scriptures. It is the reason that while I hold to an interpretation I do so with the understanding that it can always be revised. Reformed and always reforming! I look forward to the day when I will see things without that dark glass I keep looking through.

  10. Enjoying the dialogue, as well. What I find baffling (when it comes to finding “what is true”) is how much our interpretational grid affects what we see the Scriptures saying. That’s a bit what I was trying to say in this post.
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    For example, yes, it does seem the early church began moving towards hierarchy/organization right from the start. But that doesn’t prove or disprove anything.
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    Meaning, HOW can we know whether or not the hierarchal organizing of the early NT church was the result of man’s failure to operate in the Spirit, OR whether or not it was simply the positive and beneficial result of the Spirit teaching the Church how to operate. ??? Inquiring minds (ie, MINE) would love to know.
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    But I am not sure it is possible to know. Meaning, I am left to my own interpretational grid, which I’m not all that predisposed to trust, and yet I’m equally not predisposed to trust anyone else’s. *shrugs*

  11. Meaning, HOW can we know whether or not the hierarchal organizing of the early NT church was the result of man’s failure to operate in the Spirit, OR whether or not it was simply the positive and beneficial result of the Spirit teaching the Church how to operate. ??? Inquiring minds (ie, MINE) would love to know.
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    That is the $64,000 question (adjusted for inflation to $746,703.67)!

  12. Posted by Atlantic on April 4, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Naturally I agree with Jacob’s points about the structure of the Church as described in the NT.
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    I also think it’s a tad odd to believe that those poor souls in the early Jerusalem church, – including apostles, and including others who had heard Jesus’ teaching personally and seen His miracles – were so flawed at exercising their gifts of the Spirit that they felt they needed a human crutch of deacons, whereas we can be confident that we are can be what we are gifted to be in the Spirit so much better than they could that we couldn’t possibly need such a crutch.
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    Overall, I don’t see any necessary connection between increased connectivity and communication and lack of hierarchy. Hjalmarson’s statement, “Hierarchy limits options because it limits connectivity, and we live in an connected world. Information that has to flow from the top down through rigidly defined chains has limited effect” is at best a caricature of some types of hierarchical structures, one that appears to be based on the idea that hierarchy is a primarily a result of limited information-sharing. That’s a very narrow view.
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    Personally, my experience, with regards to religion, of the vast amounts of information and networking available via the internet was that it gave me unprecedented access to resources and people that were instrumental in leading me back to the Catholic Church. :)
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    Anyway, lots of the techno-optimist stuff about networking and decentralisation is by its nature focussed on high-tech-savvy groups, especially businesses, which doesn’t necessarily generalise to other types of groups or to whole societies.
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    Also, I don’t think that everything said about these trends is true. There have been studies at companies, for example, that showed that increased decentralisation led to the formation of small groups with greater inter-group competition (including knowledge-hoarding), even hostility, and a lack of co-ordination and lack of interest in the company as a whole which actually hurt the companies.
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    I haven’t read any of these books that traveller mentions, but they might be interesting. I’ve Googled around and found some stuff that sounds a lot more reasonable that I would have thought – for example, an interview with one of the Starfish and Spider authors quotes him as saying things like, “The people living in any community have the best sense of what is really going on in that community. They have local intelligence,” “Things can be chaotic when we decentralize to an extreme,” and discussing a “sweet spot” optimum point between centralisation and decentralisation. That sounds pretty sensible to me.

  13. Okay, okay, FINE, I’ll attend a Mass this Sunday already!!!!
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    :lol:

  14. Posted by traveller on April 5, 2008 at 8:57 am

    Atlantic, your references to the authors of The Starfish and the Spider are correct. It is interesting that the authors spend the first portion of their book making the case that organizations do not need leaders with excellent examples of this actually succeeding. Then they spend the rest of the book saying it really cannot work without any supporting evidence of that fact. I am not really sure why they did this. Nevertheless, the first portion of the book makes a pretty convincing case that decentralization and leaderless organizations succeed marvelously.

    The very point of the title is that if one cuts off the head of a spider (the head represents the leader) the spider dies. If one cuts off the arm of a starfish, which does not have a head per se, then it grows a new arm and the old arm grows a new starfish. Which seems to be the healthier and stronger model?

  15. Molly,
    As usual, your posts make me think. This one has been mulling around in my head since you posted it. I’m no where near the answers to the questions you asked but, the thought that keeps coming to mind that works into what you posted is that we are the Body of Christ. Within a body, things pass between and into and through the cells of that body. I keep coming back to the picture that we are the cells, part of the Body, and so an understainding of the fluidity of relationship seems appropriate. Anyway, thanks for making me think and consider.

  16. Posted by Pete on April 16, 2008 at 6:45 am

    There is so much here I want to address and I will apologize now if I jump around a bit. This is a huge issue for me. I grew up in the institutional church and excepted what was handed to me. I have also been on the other side where I took great issue with words like authority and my personal favorite “covering.” Still, I find I land in a middle ground of sorts.

    There was a comment about how it is the kingdom of God rather than the community. That is one of many metaphors found all throughout the scripture along with the body. And, like any metaphors it is only meant to be taken so far. Christ is King or head, we are his people or his body. To see that as an inference of rigid structure all in your worldview. In 1 Samuel the nation of Isreal wanted a king in spite of the fact that God did not want that for them. He wanted to be their king, but they wanted an earthly King so God relented and we all know what happened.

    While Moses was on Mount Sinai communing with God and receiving the commandments the visual presence of God could be seen as a cloud. Not to mention that God had just delivered them from Egypt. In spite of all that they still made a golden calf to be their God.

    As for the new testament fellows, they made their own set of mistakes in spite of living and ministering with Christ. When he was crucified they went into hiding!!! So I don’t think it is odd to believe at all.

    I see that there are 2 types of authority, divine or spiritual and institutional. With divine authority leadership is a matter of function rather than office. Elders were chosen because of how they operated within the body. They were honored by there commitment to serve, not because of a position that needed to be filled. Institutional authority is based on offices or position. It becomes more about title.

    I find it interesting that Jesus with His Divine authority was constantly challenging the authority of the institutional, religious leaders. What is more Christ never lorded over people. Instead, He tells us the greatest in the Kingdom is the servant of all.

    Rather than working to try to assert our authority or argue over who is the greatest in the Kingdom we should focus on our responsibility which is to love, make disciples, serve, care for those less fortunate. Look for balance in all of our relationships. In the NT there are over 60 “one another” admonishments. Love one another, submit to one another, bear one another’s burdens, confess one to another etc. Don’t expect people to give room for you to speak into their lives if you are unwilling to allow them to speak into yours. He is an infinite God who none of us has figured out. He speaks to each of us…gives each of us our own individual voice. It is our job to both listen to one another and contribute our part. Once we begin to elevate one voice above the other the body is diminished.

    One last thing, I would encourage everyone to avoid looking to the business world for insight on how the church should operate. Capitalism doesn’t come anywhere near Kingdom economy. The business world is pragmatic and its aims are very different. The Gospel isn’t a product to be branded, marketed and sold. This has always been a source of frustration for me. The Church is not intended to be a business.

    I apologize if my tone is abrasive…that isn’t my intention. Just throwing out another perspective.

  17. Posted by Pete on April 16, 2008 at 6:47 am

    wow I screwed my post up. The comments in blue were meant to address the quote by atlantic about…

    I also think it’s a tad odd to believe that those poor souls in the early Jerusalem church, – including apostles, and including others who had heard Jesus’ teaching personally and seen His miracles – were so flawed at exercising their gifts of the Spirit that they felt they needed a human crutch of deacons, whereas we can be confident that we are can be what we are gifted to be in the Spirit so much better than they could that we couldn’t possibly need such a crutch.

    Sorry for the confusion. I tried to use the XHTML and failed miserably.

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