Don’t Draft Me For Your Culture War (Pleadings for the 4th of July)

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Note to Christian Culture Warriors:  It’s your war, not mine.  This rambling treatise is just to say that I’m not in a war with my culture, so I’m dodging your draft.  No offense, but I’d rather Hillary Clinton be elected for president than your theocratic candidate.  Waaay less scary.  I mean, she’s not pro-stoning, right?  See.  I’d vote for her. 

In my opinion, fighting against my “culture” doesn’t do anything.  I did it for awhile. It just made me operate on high-alert, suspecting everything from the newspaper to the kiddie-playland at the grocery store.  Being in a Culture War made me suspicious of everyone, even those possibly in my own camp, from the friend who was a ”Christian” and an artist (But, come on.  How can you be a true Christian if you aren’t inserting Bible verses into your paintings?), to the sweet grandparents who would let the kids watch Sesame Street (Ack!  Bastion of liberaldom!) or a Disney (owned by new-agers and humanists) film when they babysat.  Being in a Culture War had me convinced that practically everyone and everything was out to get me and my family, put me on the defensive, made me shrill, quick to fight and slow to hear. 

Now bringing love, joy, peace, gentleness into the earth?  Absolutely.  Loving the unlovely?  Absolutely.  Releasing the captives, the trodden-down, the unwanted?  Absolutely.  But fighting my culture?  It’s a lesson in missing the point of the Incarnation of Christ, for one thing.  He was born into a culture—on purpose.  Cultures, all cultures, have elements of good and elements of evil.  It’s not the enemy anymore than it’s the savior.  It’s just the backdrop of the scene in which I play my small part of bringing Christ into the earth through my own humble hands and feet and smile.    

Besides, what happens if you win your war?  What “new culture” are you going to impose that will somehow be better than the one we’re in?  Would, say, ”modesty codes” fix all of our problems?  Okay, but how do you plan on enforcing them?  Are we going to get all Amish-ish and hold meetings over whether printed or plain cloth? 

Are you going to have police officers wear measuring tape next to their gun holsters, so that they can make sure my skirts are the appropriate length?  Required suspenders and an immediate ban on all saggy gangsta jeans?  Would you prefer a Taliban-like public beating for women who show their ankles, or would you like a quieter, though not necessarily cleaner, “modesty ticket” inserted into any and all exposed cracks? 

How about television?  Maybe a return to family values would be a positive thing, but who’s “family values?”  Who decides, and how is it enforced? 

What are “family values,” anyway?  Seems like for some people it’s often a fancy way of talking about a much idealized 1950’s era status quo.  Remember the 50’s, right?  Unlike today’s monsters, that was the era where children were obedient.  Like, if Daddy was “visiting” with you at night, you didn’t say anything.  (Besides, if you did say anything, which is assuming you knew he was wrong and you were worth being protected, which is assuming a lot, no one would believe you).  Good old fashioned authority still existed then.  People knew their place.  Like women, blacks, children, and the underclass.   

Ah, the 1950’s.  That was the era where stay-home mom’s weren’t odd—and neither was their deep and undefinable depression.  For some strange reason, these women weren’t content staying home with their shiney kitchen appliances all day, dislocated from community, from challenge, from thinking.  Yes, the lovely fifty’s, the era where a host of nice well-mannered grade-school children grew up to be the fire for a raging rebellion of young adults demanding the right to not accept the world only in terms of textbook/workbook questions and answers.   Funny, how they didn’t seem to appreciate the decade of their childhood.  This is where stoning would come in handy. 

So if the fifties weren’t perfect, maybe we should go back the the late 18th, early 19th centuriesto help us define Family Values.  Yeah, that time period was a real beauty.  Little boys chained to their factory stools for twelve hours without a bathroom break, upperclass women wearing corsets that deformed their bodies, no such thing as a “union” or “workman’s comp” to protect the father when a cave-in at the ol’ coal mine forever buried his left arm.  That’s assuming he was able to survive getting it hacked off with no anesthesia or antibiotics. 





Okay, maybe not.  But some folks have an easy answer—they don’t want to “return” to any era, persay, they just want to get into power and get laws passed that will reflect their values.  Though one problem with reflecting their values may include the fact that other people’s values then aren’t acceptable.  And let’s just admit it: allowing freedom of expression means that your enemies get to freely express themselves just as much as you do.   

Which brings up some big questions.  Don’t want anyone curtailing your right to preach your faith on the street corner?  Then you’d better stick up for the rights of the gay man who wants to hold his boyfriend’s hand on that same street.  Because once you set precedent for restricting some people their freedom of expression, get ready to kiss your own freedoms goodbye. 

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You might look with disdain at that kid with the multiple piercings and want pass a law curtailing his right to use his body as a vehicle for expression, fine.  But know that whoever looks at you with disdain will use that same logic to deny you the right to wear your cross necklace and your Christian t-shirts, just as soon as they get into power.   

“Oh, but this is different,” you say.  “We’re Christians.  We don’t have to give those people equal rights just so that we can keep ours, because the humanistic satan-worshiping liberals aren’t going to get into power!  We’re going to get “back to the Bible,” and rule this country God’s way.” 

Yeah, well, pardon me, but anyone who promotes a theocracy and wants to rule the nation “by the Bible,” makes me want to move to another country.  Going “by the Bible” means a different thing to every person, and depending on who’s doing the interpreting will decide everything.  Shall we be like the Taliban leader, no, wait, he wasn’t a fundamentalist Muslims, he was a fundamentalist Christian Rushdoony and his Christian reconstructionist band (like homeschool peddlers, Vision Forum, etc) and advocate stoning sinners? 

Not just adulterers, but anyone who blasphemes God, is considered an “apostate,” curses their parents or has sex before marriage.  That’s just for starters.  Sorry if most of you fit that profile, but we’re going back to the good ol’ Old Testament law, baby, and cleaning up house is the first step.  Because Family is important.  Because Morality is important.  Don’t you know, we’re in a Culture War?  And the biggest thing that’s caused all of these problems in the first place is that we made the mistake of letting people have the right to think what they want to think.  Thankfully, Andrew Sandlin of Chaldecon reminds us

  Reason itself is not an objective `given’ but is itself a divinely created instrument employed by the unregenerate to further their attack on God.” The “appeal to reason as final arbiter” must be rejected; “if man is permitted autonomy in one sphere he will soon claim autonomy in all spheres….We therefore deny every expression of human autonomy–liberal, conservative or libertarian.”

Exactly.  So what is the real crux of the Culture War?  That if the culture warriors win, you and I aren’t allowed to think in any way other than what the “new” State says is appropriate. 

Oh, sure, at first take it all sounds nice, especially because it’s usually framed in sweet words and delightful images.  Who doesn’t get warm and fuzzy (and have visions of Little House dance through their head) when someone talks about returning to the family—focusing on family.  And aren’t the pictures sweet, showing us “just what life will be like” if we submit to their paradigm.  What could go wrong?  Gee, it’s kind of like when you read the stories of how communism was introduced to the Russian school children.  Boy, it was exciting to be a member of the Young Pioneers and wear that pretty red scarf…   

Oh, don’t worry.  We’re not talking about evil Communism, we’re talking about a good thing.  We’re talking about upholding the fine Biblical vision of the family.  We’re talking about valuing it as sacred, protecting it, putting it up on the pedastal it rightly deserves.  You don’t mess with family.  As Reconstructionist Gary North once said,

“The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death.”

“Family Values,” anyone?

59 Responses to this post.

  1. *applause* Very well said!

  2. Wow. Very thought provoking, to say the least. Definitely appreciate your perspective. I agree with Amy; well said.

  3. Posted by E on July 3, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Tomorrow is the Fourth of July. Buy/Rent/Watch the movie 1776 if you’ve never seen it, and even if you have. They did a very good job with the DVD, restoring the film to its original length.

    Per Molly’s post, there’s a movie I’ve not seen but have heard of it. It’s rated R. Here is the review from DVDTalk:

    The Movie:
    THE HANDMAID’S TALE (1990) is a faithful adaptation of Margaret Atwood’s best-selling feminist novel. An all-star cast — including Natasha Richardson, Robert Duvall, Faye Dunaway, Aidan Quinn, Elizabeth McGovern, and Victoria Tennant — performs in a story about the near future, when fertile women are rare and prized — but stripped of all their rights and forced into slavery to bear children for the state.

    As the film begins, Kate (Natasha Richardson) is trying to cross the border to escape the “Republic of Gilead” — a totalitarian state where, because of pollution and devastation, most women are incapable of bearing children. Kate is captured and found to be fertile. She and the other “handmaids” are entered into a state-sponsored sexual slave ring where women carry out their duties to state and religion by bearing children for high-ranking individuals in society. Kate is to be impregnated by the Commander (Robert Duvall), much to the distress of Serena Joy (Faye Dunaway), his religious wife who fears he may be sterile. Soon, Kate learns of an underground resistance movement and begins to plot her escape.

    THE HANDMAID’S TALE is a great piece of science fiction. It takes a modern-day controversial topic — a woman’s right to choose how to treat her own body — and exaggerates the consequences of restricting those rights for the common good. The result is a nightmarish scenario that seems all too possible. With the exception of Victoria Tennant (who seems to always play the same sort of shrill baddie in every film), the performances are wonderful. The film is a bit cold and distant at times, but the ideas and themes of the film more than make up for the lack of cinematic flair. This is one of my favorite “sleeper” films and one of the few thoughtful science fiction films to be released in the past decade.

    The Picture:
    This is a very fine DVD transfer from MGM. Previous VHS and LaserDisc editions were soft and had a distinct brownish tinge to the colors. This new transfer is much sharper and the color palette is more accurate — colder and much more appropriate to the film. No compression artifacts were visible and the print is free of any damage.

    For the first time on home video, A HANDMAID’S TALE is presented in the theatrical 1.85:1 widescreen aspect ratio (enhanced for 16×9 viewing). The framing mattes off picture information from the top and bottom of the frame when compared to previous editions, but makes for a much more satisfying viewing experience. Doing a direct comparison between this DVD and the old Image Entertainment LaserDisc shows how improved many shots are in the new framing. This is a textbook example of why all films should be presented on DVD in the proper aspect ratio.

    Overall, the video on this DVD is certainly not going to win any awards, but it is a huge step up from any previous edition. I have nothing but praise for it.

    The Sound:
    The Dolby Digital 2.0 surround soundtrack is acceptable, if unremarkable. Dialog is centered and easy-to-understand, but there is little else going on sonically. There is a very narrow front soundstage, and I noticed absolutely no surround information during the entire film. The majority of the film is dialog-driven, so the lack of a dynamic soundtrack is not distracting, but I did notice a distinct lack of “punch” for the film’s musical soundtrack and moments that would ordinarily benefit from multi-channel sound (gunshots, trucks, etc.)

    Special Features:
    MGM provides the film’s theatrical trailer as the only extra. Subtitles are available in English, French, and Spanish.

    Final Thoughts:
    A HANDMAID’S TALE is definitely not a “feel good” movie, so it may have limited re-watch value for most people. But, it is a very well made film filled with wonderful performances and a screenplay that creatively discusses important issues. I only wish that they made more science fiction films like this. MGM seems to have priced this DVD about $5 higher than their usual movie-only editions, but the cost is still reasonable and the DVD is highly recommended to people interested in women’s issues or just cerebral science fiction in general. At the very least, you should consider renting this interesting, little-seen gem.

  4. Heh. Provoked these thoughts:

    1. Blessed are the peacemakers!

    2. What you put energy into, grows. Do really want to focus your energy on, say, fighting immodesty?

    3. For every legislation, there is an equal and opposite rebellion.

    4. I went to a conservative, baptist-in-all-but-name seminary for a few years. Most memorable classroom moment was Dr. Paul Metzger getting worked up about these same things to the point where he threw his bible down, saying “To hell with the family; focus on Christ!”

    5. Have any of you ever read the GQ article about 4-5 years, where the non-Christian author wrote about his experience spending a week entirely in “the ark” (his term for the christian bubble/sub-culture)? It was quite interesting.

    6. John 17:15

  5. Excellent post, Molly.

    “That if the culture warriors win, you and I aren’t allowed to think in any way other than what the “new” State says is appropriate. ”

    This quote and some other things you said reminded me of what we talked about today in my Modern China class. We’re just getting into stuff on the Cultural Revolution. We watched a collection of video interviews of Chinese who went through it, and they talked about how people were encouraged to police their neighbors and report anyone suspected of “wrong thoughts” like capitalist leanings, or potential “enemies of the People.” And the propaganda videos the government used were so saccharine they reminded me of some Vision Forum stuff. Scary.

    Also, have you read the book The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood? It’s about how the US was turned into a highly patriarchal “Christian” society. I picked it up because I remembered a few years ago there had been a big hullabaloo in the online homeschooling community about it and warnings against it. It’s very thought-provoking, and also depressing (and has some mature themes), but I do recommend it.

  6. E, looks like you were thinking the same thing I was as I was writing. I didn’t know there was a movie based on the book, maybe I’ll check it out.

  7. Posted by E on July 3, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    Teachergirl: Read my posting above yours. I include a review of the movie The Handmaid’s Tale.

    Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses … :)

  8. Posted by Julie in Ohio on July 3, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Another round of applause from over here, Molly!

    We are journeying along the same road, away from fundamentalism and all the baggage that goes with it. I didn’t have quite the experience that you did, but what you have written about your previous life resonates very strongly with me. I have reason to believe that some of the root cause of my depressive episodes over the past 6-7 years has to do with my immersion in that right-wing lifestyle. No more.

    I’ll gladly be a draft dodger in this instance, too. :)

    Regards,
    Julie in Ohio

  9. Posted by AE on July 3, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    I laughed, I cried, I cheered. As a historian, I’m always pleased to witness healthy skepticism about the Good Old Days. There were no Good Old Days, and anyone’s idealization of a past era says much more about his or her current agenda than the actual time period under discussion. I’m so glad to have found this blog. The quality of discussion is amazing (and often reminds me that although I may be a religious historian, I’m no theologian).

  10. “”Come. Sit down. Let’s argue this out.” This is God’s Message: “If your sins are blood-red, they’ll be snow-white. If they’re red like crimson, they’ll be like wool.”" Isaiah 1:18 (Message)

    “”Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool.”" Isaiah 1:18 (NKJV)

    Hmm… God says reasoning is bad?!

  11. Molly~

    By the way. I REALLY LIKED THIS POST! ;-)

  12. Posted by Jenn on July 4, 2008 at 4:42 am

    Great, great post!!

    I “third” the recommendation of “The Handmaid’s Tale”. The book is a good read and the movie was a fair representation of the book.

  13. Posted by belowthesurface on July 4, 2008 at 5:57 am

    Molly, this was fantastic!

    I agree with what Julie in Ohio wrote. Being part of the right-wing camp was definitely bad for the emotional health.

    Dodging the draft with you here in SC,

    Tina

  14. Wanna know what I think? I think that when “Christians” are so busy fighting their culture that they miss the 2 greatest commandments and the great commission… Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and stregnth (how can we when we fear Him because of our own legalistic, unessecary values) and Love your nieghbor as yourself (Nope, sorry we’re too afriad of your sin making us sinful to love you. Too busy bashing and putting you down to make us feel better to have compassion on you and talk to you) AND therefor GO and make Disciples… (BUT how? We too busy popping out babies and making Nourishing Traditions our Bible to care to get out and share our saving knowledge of Jesus Christ!)

    In my opinion Christian Culture is pharisitical fear! But Aslan tells Susan “ah, you fear too much”. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Fear of the world is immobilizing!

    Off my soapbox.

  15. That which includes Love the lord your God, and love your neighbour as yourself is as close to legislation as you’ll see me get.
    And anything that by passes those principles misses the point entirley for me.
    We can argue, talk, discuss, do, but without the love of the two commandments on which all the prophets and laws hang, these things become meaningless.
    Blessings and love ~
    SuzyQ

  16. Wow, you guys write better comments than I do posts. Good stuff.

  17. Don’t want anyone curtailing your right to preach your faith on the street corner? Then you’d better stick up for the rights of the gay man who wants to hold his boyfriend’s hand on that same street. Because once you set precedent for restricting some people their freedom of expression, get ready to kiss your own freedoms goodbye.

    Yup!! I’ve been grumbling about this under my breath since I was a teenager (in Fundamentalism) but that just labels me as too post-modern… too in love with “the world.” *rolls eyes*

    Well written Molly. Keep it up! Even if the VF types never “get it,” others are listening and reading… eyes *are* being opened.

  18. As with most of your posts, I find myself nodding.

    Happy 4th Molly!

  19. Ah yes the good old days. :)

    Every generation wistfully looks back and pines for that which never was. Every generation has its good and bad points.

    I remember reading (somewhere) of a study done of the Puritan era and the incidence of premarital sex. Using Church birth and marriage records over 60% of the women saying I do were pregnant at the time. Yet, it is the Puritan era that is often used as an illustration of a culture for Christians to aspire to.

    The best day is today. Enjoy it. It may be your last. :)

    Kudos to you for surrendering your membership in the Culture army. It is an unwinnable war that God is NOT in. It is time our culture, of which we are a vital part, sees us for what we are for.

    Known for what? Let’s see I believe you said…….”Now bringing love, joy, peace, gentleness into the earth? Absolutely.

    That will work for me.

    Bruce

  20. Molly,
    You’re right. There are no “good old days”, just like there is no ideal society, no ideal place to live, no ideal anything! We live in this fallen earth, where nature is groaning and waiting for Jesus’ return.

    The society Jesus was born into was doing things very Biblically. They managed to really mess it up. Do we think we can do any better? Nah!

    I am also wary of Christians who want to fight the culture and say that’s the Godly/Biblical way. We’re called to love, be light, let our light shine, keep our saltiness and so on. Not to fight the culture.

    Great post!

    Happy 4th of July!

    My family and I visited an Anglican church one 4th of July several years ago. The Vicar said ” Today is the day the Americans celebrate their independence…… from us”

  21. Hmm… in thinking about it, Jesus did not fight the ‘worldly’ culture at all. He did call out the religious culture, however. ;-)

  22. I’m right with ya, Molly. Really enjoyed this post. It’s part of why I personally wasn’t too up in arms when civil marriages for same-sex couples was approved here in Canada. (Kept that feeling to myself, though.) Troubling, yes. Worth investing untold amounts of money and effort in lobbying gov’t. Not for me.

    Just recently I’ve been feeling quite frustrated again with an ‘us against them’ tone coming from the pulpit; along with that comes the cultivation of a culture of fear of ‘the world’ (or as you clearly put it, our culture) for those in the church and that makes folks a lot less likely to reach out, as someone already commented, to work on the greatest commandments and commission.

    By the way, for all that, do enjoy your nation’s birthday today! Our fireworks went off 3 days ago! :)

  23. Molly -
    I liked your reflects, but wanted to accentuate the part where you note,
    “Now bringing love, joy, peace, gentleness into the earth? Absolutely. Loving the unlovely? Absolutely. Releasing the captives, the trodden-down, the unwanted? Absolutely. But fighting my culture? It’s a lesson in missing the point of the Incarnation of Christ, for one thing. ”
    We have to remember that although Jesus was born into a culture, he also challenged that culture. The things he did – turning over tables in the temples, challenging spiritual authority, haning out with the diseased and sinners – were totally counter-cultural.
    That said, I think the language of “war” can certainly be emotionally exhausting. And…well, conjures up the wrong images / thoughts / feelings Where culture is concerned, I prefer the language of “jamming”. You don’t take your culture as an impenitrable, unchangable given, but instead act out within it, poke fun at it, and generally question it. There’s a lot of ways we can do this as Christ-followers. Most importantly, though, is that we always seek to follow him before following our culture.

  24. Posted by Beatrice on July 4, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    I love this post, especially since as a young, naive, faintly neurotic Christian I was drawn to Theonomy and Reconstructionism. But more and more I see there was something very off about it – something that I still can’t really express, but that you are expressing for me very well.

    I guess the heart of my objection is that so many people who think they have God down and who are really good at getting people to follow them and admire their rhetoric actually have a LOT they should sit down and think about. Well, we all have lots to sit down and think about. But it’s really dangerous when any of us refuses to. People can be SO SURE they’re on God’s side and they can be so good at concocting a mirage that LOOKS so godly and sweet but is so fake. And I find this terrifying, after buying into a lot of saccharine mirages.

    This stuff especially appeals to immature Christians or Christians with lots of issues, I think. People who are nevertheless passionate for God and want to give Him their all, but ending up trying to do it in ways that can often miss the point of Who He is.

  25. I only have a second, but I wanted to throw a quick comment to Ericka and say that I strongly believe that we should be about the business of subverting those human constructs that seek to keep blind men blind, chained prisoners chained, starved orphans starving, and so on.

    I didn’t take the time to clarify that in my post, but what I am *not* interested in is participating in the culture war of the “family values” folks, particularly the Rushdoony clan and the “America used to be Christian, dang it” clan. However, I am ALL about recognizing that we live in an empire, and that the empire is not for anything but itself.

    As a Christian, I may live in an empire but I’m not of the empire. And my call to Love goes directly against the empire’s call to gain power and wealth. That said, I find it interesting that while Rome crucified Christ, it was the religous leaders that handed him to them and demanded the death. Love isn’t popular with either group. In other words, Love isn’t for wussies. :)

    And now I have to get off this computer, because I’m being sequestered for a game of Sequence with the kids… Time to kick some booty…er…love my children…whatever… :lol:

  26. Posted by tiffany on July 4, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    De-lurking to say: great post. :)

    Ok, back to hiding….

  27. Posted by militarywifey on July 5, 2008 at 3:54 am

    I have to agree with your statement that the world wasn’t really any better in the 1950s than it is now. There were still the same problems, they were just hidden.

    But I do have to say that not ALL housewives were upset about staying home with their appliances. In fact, I don’t know any housewives who do that. We have plenty of work to do here, from tending to our children, to being involved in the community, etc. And many of us are completely fullfilled in taking on the role of raising our children at home. I sincerely don’t believe every mother is called to be a SAHM, but some of us througholy enjoy it.

  28. Posted by Brenda on July 5, 2008 at 7:11 am

    I identify with those who have written who are finding their way out of legalism, patriarchy and other cultish arenas. I struggle with bitterness and what could have been.I have angry days. On the other hand, I am an American. I am proud of that. I am proud of our history, our forefathers, our constitution. I am proud and feel privileged to have the right to vote and to voice my opinion. So although I am not officially engaged in a “cultural war”…I feel it is my duty as an American to express my beliefs via a vote. (at the very least) (and for those who might be wondering, I am not voting with the constitutional party)I imagine my life as a pendulum. In the cultish arena, I was swinging completely in one direction, as an ex-cultish arena person, I swung as completely far in the opposite direction. Now, I’m tired and I am trying to find myself in the middle somewhere between living with convictions and loving my neighbor. I’ve adopted the verse….”what does the Lord require of thee but to do justly, love mercy and walk humbly with the Lord your God”…as my daily mantra. I don’t know if that really makes any sense or not, but I hope so.

    I’m really thankful, Molly, to have found your blog and equally thankful that you haven’t been afraid to voice what your experiences have taught you. Thanks again for sharing and giving us all this place to “reason together”.

  29. I’ve really enjoyed these comments!

    A quick note to militarywife and then I have to go bathe some young things,
    I am a sahm, too. :) I wasn’t trying to say it doesn’t involve work (or that it’s not a good thing), but more speaking to why Betty Friedan’s book hit so many women on such a deep level. .It resonated for a reason…because so many women were told they would/should be deeply fulfilled at home…and they found that they deeply were not. Instead of being encouraged to try something else or to think outside the box, these women were told (overtly or not) that something was wrong with THEM. Friedans “evil feminist manifesto” hit them in a deep place of pain, a place that the reconstructionists would never have allowed them to go in the first place.

    The latest LAF (a reconstructionist site) page provides an excellent article detailing exactly what I’m talking about. It’s current front page (of recommended articles) promotes an article that tells its readers depression comes from being a feminist, that depression comes from *not* embracing a patriarchal view of women. It lets women know that if they’d learn the godly art of stuffing down those bad feelings, then they could be happy like godly women should be. Depression is all the feminists fault.

    Huh.

    To all the commenters, really, thanks for adding your thoughts to the mix, and I apologize for not having the time to respond to them all. Good stuff…

  30. Been lurking here forever, but had to pop in to say thanks for the insightful post and share a coincidence. As I read through the post, I thought it was amazing how much the theocracy described sounded like an intriguing book I picked up a couple of days ago. Apparently I wasn’t alone! I read down through the comments and discovered several comments comparing it to The Handmaid’s Tale…the very book I bought for 50 cents at the Goodwill on Thursday morning. Weird.

    Much thanks for this blog, Molly. You’ve allowed me to retain some of my sanity!

  31. I put THE HANDMAID’S TALE in our Netflix cue.

  32. Btw, I’ve read the Handmaid’s Tale a couple times—-I love that kind off stuff (good sci-fi). :) I saw the movie a long time ago but don’t really remember it much. Of course it’s hard for movie’s to beat the books… Good recommendation, all! :) In coming out of all of the stuff, one fictional book that really resonated with me was Animal Farm, for the obvious reasons… “We’re your (spiritual) authorities because we want to CARE for you…”

  33. Molly,

    Thanks for the clarification. I do agree with you that, although some of us throughouly enjoy “housewifing”, others are not cut out for it.

    In looking back at how our culture has changed over the past 50 years, I find that the housewives today are far more advantageous than the housewives of the 1950s. Some work part-time, some work from home, many of us are educated, many of us blog (like you and yours truly). We are not simply confined to the cleaning and cooking and other household chores. Many of us, if God forbid something were to happen, could support ourselves and our family if need be.

    There has been a lot of good and bad come out of the feminist movement throughout the years. Yet I am grateful that we as women nowadays have the ability to go to college and are often encouraged to do so.

  34. Posted by normalmiddle on July 5, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    WOOT! And a HOLLER! You got it right girl. We can LOVE Christ, SERVE Christ, and deny this “culture war” all at the same time.

    Do I want my kids to be modest, vote their values, and adhere to good ole’ moral & Biblical principles? YES! But it is MY job to teach these things, not the culture. Not Joe-Schmoe down the street or at the school or the “morality police.”

    I also love how you so poignantly point out that the good old days, well, they WERE NOT. Sin has been in this world since the garden and we are never going to find a perfect generation in any era to replicate or “go back to.” (no matter what the Vision Forum catalogs tell you!)

    Let’s focus on today. Let us remember that love covers a multitude of sins, and let us love and serve each other and our families without this gotcha! attitude we have in the church.

    I for one love this generation. I love the technology we have available. It is all about balance and responsibility. We CAN thrive as a Christian culture in this day and age, and we don’t have to beat anyone over the head about it, either.

  35. “Exactly. So what is the real crux of the Culture War? That if the culture warriors win, you and I aren’t allowed to think in any way other than what the “new” State says is appropriate.”

    So what do we do? It’s already being such a state. Thinking on the kids that were all placed in foster care in Texas because….well, their parent were accused of nothing solid but thought crime and that could be me next, right? Our freedoms are slowly being stolen away quietly in this wonderful culture God planned for me to be born in. Is there no moderate thing to do about it? I can’t take my children to a ‘family fireworks celebration’ without them being exposed to filthy language, heavy –uh well-let’s call it public displays of lust, a couple of 14 yo boys trying to get a girl to send a pic of her bre*sts on the cell phone….

    Anyway, yes, I agree there are tons of extremists who abuse their authority. But there has to be a way to make things better without stoning people, right?

    There was no ‘good old days’ really, you are right. There is nothing new under the sun. But I have to say, there are elements of days gone by I would have liked a whole lot better.

  36. lyn,

    I agree that we can’t sit and do nothing. But I don’t think it’s a matter of fighting against the culture, but living against it. We are called to be light, to shine, to not conform, but we shouldn’t expect the world to conform to us either. We should expect persecution.

    My dad always said that under Franco’s dictatorship (Spain), a family of 12 was given a house. But under Franco’s dictatorship there was no freedom of religion. That family of 12 would have had to go to Catholic Mass, otherwise they could face a jail sentence.
    Just an example of good old days that weren’t so good, or oppressive dictatorship that wasn’t that bad in some aspects. Half full or half empty, there was good and bad.

    The Bible does say that things are going to get worse….

  37. Posted by K on July 5, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    I appreciated your thoughts in this post. Similar to things I’ve been thinking recently.

    When I hear the fear Christians have of Obama being president (or Clinton when she was still in it) I don’t understand it. I don’t like any of the candidates (the only one I could really endorse was Ron Paul) but we know (or should know) that God appoints those who are in authority. Yeah, maybe I will be upset with what that president does in office, but to be FEARFUL? My God is bigger than any president and he controls it all. Who is president doesn’t change who I am or what I believe or who I belong to. And even if “my” candidate gets into office, does that change where this world is headed?

    And as I started pondering this, I started thinking about how Jesus dealt with politics, culture etc. He addressed things to people personally, but didn’t get caught up in the affairs of government. He wasn’t condoning oppression or slavery, but he wasn’t here to change those things, he was here to change the hearts of the people.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t care or be involved in politics or culture, I just think maybe Christians put too much time and energy into worrying about those things when they could be putting that energy into furthering the kingdom of God. Instead of spending hours of time researching candidates voting records or joining every “Christian” boycott and letter-writing campaign, how about praying for your unsaved relatives, or getting to know your co-workers in a real way, or even just studying the word of God? What would Jesus really want us doing?

  38. WAY TO SAY IT!!! awesome post molly

  39. Posted by sarah on July 6, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    I’m pretty pumped that there are so many other Margaret Atwood fans out there! Happy reading!

  40. Posted by Left Right Out on July 6, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    For those of you who liked The Handmaid’s Tale, may I suggest “Farthing” by Jo Walton? It’s very different in style than THT (more Dorothy Sayers’ mystery type), but I found it equally as chilling. Basically it’s a “what if the US never entered WWII and Britain made a peace with Hitler that included him keeping the Continent?” It doesn’t focus on Nazis, however, but on the decent people of Britain and how easy it is to sink into facism. And it’s fantastically written.

    LRO

  41. Posted by Left Right Out on July 6, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    that should be ‘the “decent” people of Britain’ And it has a thread of homosexuality running through it, nothing explicit, but some characters are gay.

  42. Molly, girl…SHEW. You blow my mind most days. How did you get in my head?

    I like how you said that Love wasn’t for wussies. So true.

    Dodging the culture war draft…

  43. EXCELLENT post, Molly!

    I absolutely agree about the good old days that never really were. The reconstructionists are proudly recreating the very sinful social structures out of which God has already provided us the Way. But no! Instead, we all have to be pigeonholed into the decadent first-century Greco-Roman society and settle for a veneer of religious practice informed almost entirely by secular tradition but baptized as “christian.” That emperor, I’m sad to say, is still buck-nekkid.

    And I grow very weary of those who scream that religious rights are being trampled here in America, that the church is being persecuted. Puh-leeeeeze! What an arrogant disregard for the true persecution actually occuring throughout the world…in the places where the church is actually growing! These pampered blowhards have the audacity to advocate abridging the rights of everyone EXCEPT Christians, in order to make it even easier than it already is to be a nominal Christian in the U.S.

    News flash, reconstructionists: it always has been, and always will be, hard work to be a faithful Christian in the world. I mean a real one, not just one who says all the religiously-popular buzzwords and fawns over the religiously popular celebrity preachers who promise a blueprint-easy method for having the perfect family and country. Just when, I wonder, did you decide that Christ, and Christ alone, was insufficient for you?

  44. Wow…what an interesting and thought-provoking post. I struggle with the idea of the “culture war” idea almost every day. I am also a non-traditional Christian in many ways and so I see things from a different perspective as many of my Christian acquaintances. You’ve really helped me see that it’s “ok” if I don’t engage in the culture war…it’s so much more important to show Jesus’ love to those around me. Take care,
    Lynn

  45. Posted by Kathleen on July 8, 2008 at 6:33 am

    molleth,

    You write what has been in my thoughts. How’d you do that? Oh, that’s right, you lived the legalism was set free and can comfort those with the comfort wherewith you have been comforted.

    I’m asking for you to pray for me in my situation with my former FIC. I have some friends currently in it and my family has friends there, but I couldn’t take any more of these same kinds of teachings you just blogged about here and I left in March of this year, after I heard one too many times the exclusionary teachings of home business is the most God-given way for men to support their families and the constant self-promotion of the leadership’s celebrity “vision”. Also the increasingly VF teachings. Recently, the FIC leader asked my husband to ask me (not directly me) to take down a blog post that describes why I disagree with those teachings, and I share links and his own words where he’s taught some of those things. I think I’ve heard this happening before in the patriarchal circles ;-)

    So, I need grace and guidance and compassion and a reflective spirit, but I also don’t want to compromise, just so a family can continue to spread their weird, exclusionary doctrine.

    Thanks for the excellent post, molleth.

    You know who I am; I’ve commented on TW several times.

  46. This has been a really good conversation to listen in on. Thank you all for sharing your own thoughts, observations, critiques… (As I’ve said before, your musings in the comments box are often far better than my actual posts). Good stuff.

  47. Molly,

    AMAZING POST!! I love the draft-dodging analogy.

    Scott

  48. Scott,
    I like the ticker on the sidebar of your blog… :)

  49. Just finished watching HANDMAID’S TALE. It was okay. Not bad, but not a movie you have to see. I guess it presents a plausible scenario of a Bible-based (Old Testament) totalitarian government.

  50. Gotta link it…again! I wish I could write like you!

  51. [...] July 4th over at Adventures in Mercy, and I haven’t forgotten it.  You can find it here.  It is well-worth the read. [...]

  52. Baby, rock on. Came over here via Tina at Below the Surface and I’m glad I did. Succinct and to the point. Excellent.

  53. [...] have written before about my paradigm shift, about my former status as a culture warrior and the subsequent burning of my draft card.  The liberal and secular readers here will probably laugh, but those of you who come from a [...]

  54. Linked in from another blog… Love this post! Whenever I am ranting about the culture wars I love to point out that throughout history almost every time Christianity has been in a position of political power and authority we’ve ended up with humanitarian atrocities of one type or another; the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition. etc. You’d think the Church would learn that they’re not real good at world domination.

    I love Tolkiens’ discussion of the corrupting power of too much power in his Ring Trilogy. It never works to justify the means by intentions for a good end.

  55. Posted by Headless Unicorn Guy on November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    I was born in 1955. I was a kid in the Nifty Fifties and the First 1960s (the 1960s before The Sixties).

    I have NEVER understood why so many Christians view the 1950s as some sort of Godly Golden Age. And they don’t even have the REAL 1950s (that I remember), but a Mythical 1950s as seen through the lens of Ozzie, Harriet, and Donna Reed.

  56. Posted by Headless Unicorn Guy on November 18, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    “…Reason itself is not an objective `given’ but is itself a divinely created instrument employed by the unregenerate to further their attack on God.”

    You know who that reminds me of? Mohammed al-Ghazali, who completely divorced Faith from Reason in Islamic theology some 800 years ago.

    Both Thomas Aquinas and al-Ghazali wrestled with the same problem: Reconciling pagan (primarily Greek) philosophy with their Holy Book and faith.

    Aquinas reconciled the two in his Summa Theologica, showing that Christian doctrine held water under Arostitalean logic and that while God went beyond reason, He shouldn’t flatly contradict it. Human wisdom and knowledge were a subset of Divine wisdom and knowledge. Though the Enlightenment went off on a bit of a tangent, the respect for reason still influenced the West.

    al-Ghazali came to the opposite conclusion in his Incoherence of the Philosophers, that Reason and Logic were Pagan and Enemies of Faith and that FAITH FAITH FAITH must prevail. As his theology became dominant in the Islamic world, Islamic Faith became Total Blind Faith. “GOD WILLS IT!”

    Both of these approaches influenced their respective civilizations; after 800 years of each, what results do you see?

  57. HUG, I am completely with you about the unrealistic idealization of the 1950s (as much as someone born in 1975 can be!). I am so far from being an expert in medieval intellectual history, but I wonder how, say, William of Ockham and Averroes fit into this scheme with Aquinas on one end of the spectrum (Christianity and reason) and al-Ghazali on the other (Islam and faith). William of Ockham critiqued Aquinas’s supremely confident belief that faith and reason could be reconciled and instead more modestly encouraged thinkers to apply faith to religion and reason to the natural world. It was a more pessimistic outlook for a more calamitous time (high vs. late Middle Ages). Averroes also argued for the separation of the religious and philosophical realms and often (although I don’t know how fairly) receives credit for establishing secular thought. Off the top of my head, I don’t know the chronology for the Islamic thinkers, but the situation seems potentially more complicated than drawing straight lines between Christianity and respect for reason and Islam and a demand for total blind faith. Has Averroes been co-opted by later readers who inject a level of secularism that simply wasn’t in the original?

  58. Posted by Headless Unicorn Guy on November 19, 2008 at 10:01 am

    AE:

    There were aspects of the Nifty Fifties that I think should have been retained in the tumult of The Sixties. As in “Here’s what we gained in these changes; here’s what we lost — was it worth it? Should some things that were lost have been better kept? Should some things that were kept have been better lost?”

    And I’m not that up on medieval intellectual history myself. (Comes from being an ex-kid genius with a head for strange and esoteric trivia; my head is always a storm of obscure references and mental hyperlinks.) This I remember because how Aquinas and al-Ghazali came to completely opposite conclusions from the same starting point, and how their influence echoes down to the present. In a way, Aquinas and al-Ghazali are almost type examples of the two ways to resolve the “Faith vs Reason” issue. And I see a lot of Christians who have taken al-Ghazali’s route.

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